hi
please find herewith the probable dates for 6+ quakes for the month of November 216
1) 7th November .......6.4
2)15th November ......6.6
3)21st November ......6.3
The time window is + or - one day
The probable date and time (+ or - 6 Hrs ) are also mentioned here with
1)7th November........20 UTC
2)14 th.....................15 UTC
3)17th....................12 UTC
4)22nd ...................4 UTC
Amit
please find herewith the probable dates for 6+ quakes for the month of November 216
1) 7th November .......6.4
2)15th November ......6.6
3)21st November ......6.3
The time window is + or - one day
The probable date and time (+ or - 6 Hrs ) are also mentioned here with
1)7th November........20 UTC
2)14 th.....................15 UTC
3)17th....................12 UTC
4)22nd ...................4 UTC
Amit
125 comments:
hi
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/07/11/Scientists-predict-massive-earthquake-building-beneath-Bangladesh/9231468261730/
please observe ,how seismologist predict (forecast ) major quake at Bangladesh . How on earth such predictions are useful ,other than making people anxious.
Please do not tell ,that, such study is useful in building constructions. Even if you built earthquake resistant buildings to day, they may not last 500 years.
Beauty of our laws is, such prediction do not come under offence,though what it is doing is making people anxious. if ,today I give all the three aspects of quake predictions ,namely magnitude, date and location , I may be prosecuted.
Even if the motive is to construct earthquake resistant buildings, the prediction should be handed over to Government confidentially and no need to give it publicity. The fact of the matter is seismologists want cheap publicity and do not bother the consequences of such
vague predictions.
on the other hand , I abide myself with the rukes and norms
Amit
Why do you have different dates?
Anonymous
They are not different dates.The first one are having + or - one day window period ,where as the second one are having more specific narrow(+or - 6 hrs) window.
Thus it is 72 hrs window v/s 12 hrs window ie six times more specific
Amit
Amit, yes, But the 17th does not fall inside any of your four 72 hour windows
Tom
Yes. You are right. 17th is additional.In fact ,I could not accomodate it in my 3 day window.
Amit
Amit;
I did a tally on the first 10 months of 2016 to see how you're doing.
There were no predictions in January so those quakes were not counted.
Feb to Oct had 100 qualifying quakes and your windows captured 37 of them.
21 of your 35 windows contained quakes so you were 60% accurate which sounds impressive, but those windows covered 105 days or 43% of the time so you should have caught 43% of the quakes rather than the 37% you did get.
Just chance.
Roger
Roger
Here is exactly the score card from January to October 2016. By the way ,January predictions were made (pl check)
1) Total days.....305
2)Total 6+ quakes ....112
3)Total quake dates (actual)....88
Now
1) total predicted dates are 37 (ie 37*3=111 days)...111/305=36.4%
2) total hit dates ........26..(ie 26/37=70.27%)
3) total quakes in predicted window.....47 ( ie 47/112=41.9% of quakes predicted )
Roger, you can see the hit percentage are more than 70
Amit
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Amit;
We never seem to agree on totals.
I get
1) 36 predictions (36x3=118 days) 118/305=39%
2) total hit dates...24 (24/36=67%)
3) total quakes in windows ... 41 (41/113=36%)
Not far off.
So it shows that while your windows are better than expected the quakes captured are fewer than expected.
So far, any way...
Roger
Roger
If you want I can give details.
By the way,at first sight I find one error.
36 predictions give 108 days and not 118.
Amit
Amit;
Aha! That's what happens with multiplying in my head!
But that worked against you. Now your odds match your performance even better.
Perfect chance results.
Yes, email details please.
Roger
Roger
This shows ,every human being is prone to make errors.
Amit
Hi
An unusual 5+ quake occured at Oklohoma causing damages to structures,a date hit prediction.
Amit
hi
Damage by Oklahoma quake
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/earthquake-causes-damage-central-oklahoma-n678811
Amit
Amit;
Too small to qualify as a hit and caused by fracking anyway.
Roger
6.0 quake at Bio Bio Chile to day
Amit;
Not according to USGS
Roger
Hi
Moon is at Closest distance from Earth in some 69 Years.
https://in.news.yahoo.com/nasa
Watch the date and time for quake.
Amit
Amit;
3 in a row: Oct 16, Nov and Dec 14
If none of these include a mag 8 somewhere will you give up this idea?
Roger
Roger
We already have 6.8 quake on 17th, which was highest in October 2016.
We will have higher magnitude quakes on 14th or 17th.
Quakes are not only dependent on Moon phases and distances,but yes, it is a major trigger.Magnitude also depend on location ie plate boundaries
Amit
Amit;
Quakes on the 4th and 11th, both missed.
Score 0/2 quakes, 0/1 (so far) predictions
Roger
Roger
what is more important is missing a predicted date .
Amit
Amit;
They both count against you. A valid method would capture all quakes.
Roger
Just had 6.6 in NZ
6.6 in nz at 1202pm 14/11
Hi/Roger
Watch accuracy of prediction.7.4 and 6.2 at south of NZ.to day ie 13th.
I expect atleast one 6.5+ in 48 hrs
(place not known)
Amit
Hi
If you want to check....
Moon at the time of NZ quake today ie 7.8 quake, on 13th Nov 2016, at 11.03 UTC at 42.7 degrees south and 173 degrees East.....is
Moon at the time of Quake is at 9.26 degrees North and 175 degrees East. The longitude ie 175 degrees East is important.Pl note ,the major quakes ( in next 48 hrs) will be,generally, at the Longitude location of the Moon. So keep track of Moon for 48 Hrs
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html?day=13&month=11&year=2016&hour=11&min=03&sec=0&n=&ntxt=&earth=0
Amit
Amit;
Sorry but all 3 quakes are a miss for you.
Your window was for the 15th
I would expect aftershocks but those don't really count. I'll give you credit for them but only because your prediction was made long beforehand.
Your score is 0/5 quakes, 0/1 predictions as of today.
Roger
Its the 14th today. The big earthquakes started just after midnight. Hit
Nz has just been hit by a series of quakes. 13 nov 2016. From all over the both islands.
Quake hit today. Effecting the entire country.
Amit is correct. We had quakes in South Island affecting the entire country.
Amit is wrong.
His predictions are for UT, not local time.
Roger
Wow Armit! That is very accurate. I am in NZ and felt it 12.02am November 14th in Auckland. The South Island is effected the most severe. Are you able to tell us if the one coming on the 21st is to hit NZ also?
280 aftershocks plus. 2 dead in South Island. More to come? Quite likely.
Another hit bro, things got crazy last night.
Actually 12.05am on 14th Nov so Amit gave seriously accurate prediction.
Amit;
What's up with all the deletions?
Roger
Roger
I am sorry
Something wrong with settings.
I will have to check
Amit
Roger
Possibly due to deletion of e mail notifications from my mail box?
I am not sure.will find out
Sorry again
Amit
Amit;
Mag 7.0 today, counts against you
Miss.
Roger
Amit, you mentioned the date 14 Dec. Is that a significant date for New Zealand?
Curious
I predict the dates for the month in the first or second date of each month
Dec dates are not published yet
Amit
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Earthquake Prediction for November -2016":
when is the next one ?
20-21 i think
Raghu Ragi;
No, I don't predict, I evaluate prediction methods.
I've duplicated Amit's method(s) on my computer and they don't work. He gets some hits but no more than chance would allow, on average.
Roger
Roger
some how , I am trying to restore the deleted comments from my e mail notification
Let us see, how many I can restore
Amit
I can't watch it for some reason
Hi can you tell me when next earthquake will be for north island in nz please
Japan is on our fault line, I find these predictions very eerie.
Amit;
Yes another hit today
That makes it 3/8 quakes, 1/3 predictions
Still chance.
Roger
Amit;
Ooops! Another one on the 22nd.
That makes 4/9 quakes and 2/3 predictions correct.
Still coin toss results and any in the rest of the month will make it worse.
Roger
Do you think we will get another big one in new zealand anytime soon?
Roger. Can you have a crack at predicting next month's earthquakes to see how "chance" goes vs Amit.
Roger, can you throw some earthquake predictions out there for next month to show us all how "chance" or a "coin toss" goes vs Amit.
Sure;
3rd, 15th, 25th
3 day windows, mag 6+, same as Amit.
Roger
Roger
Are you talking of December 2016 prediction ?
I will be posting dates for December by Sunday evening
Amit
Amit;
Yes, December random predictions as requested by Anonymous for comparison with yours.
Roger
Roger
Ok.
Thanks
Amit
If that's 3 days each side that covers a fair chunk of the month. Can you be more specific?
If that's 3 days each side that covers a fair chunk of the month. Can you be more specific?
I think 1 December is important day for newzeland.
Philip
No. It does not cover three days on each side. It is one day on either side,ie total of three days. So ,if I have given four days, it covers total 12 days ie less than 50% of the month
Amit
hi
I request Philip,Curiou and anonymous ,to give three random dates for December 2016,for 6+ quakes,with one one day window on both sides. This will ensure ,that out of three random dates
at least two are qual or better than my predictions
Amit
Hi
All.
please give four random dates for December 2016. As I am going to give four probable dates for December 2016.It will be easier to compare my dates with all other dates .Dates expected from Roger, Anonymous, Philip and Curiou
Amit
Next full full moon with a perigee is 13th Dec. That would be my first guess
Ok mine are 4th 7th 24th 28th Dec. Haven't seen yours yet so will be interesting.
For the record, I was anonymous when I first asked the question to Roger about random predictions.
Thanks
Curious,we want random dates, just pick up chits from thirty spread randomly,it has nothing to do with full Moon or Perigee
Jessica, I request you also to give four random dates. Four will be a good comparison.Roger I request one more date from you
Amit
5th 10th 14th 17th
Amit;
Ok, make it 3,15,21 and 29
One random date is as good as another.
Roger
Here are my dates:
2nd
12th
22nd
29th
P.S: All these dates are absolutely random and no research made.
Amit;
Final scores for November
4/12 quakes (33%)
2/3 preds (66%)
9/30 days (30%)
Slightly better than expected.
Just chance.
Roger
Amit;
Another way to look at this is the ratio between observed and expected hits.
You were 7/9 which is slightly better than chance where others were 3 and 4 times better than expected - by chance.
Your method does not work. It produces it's results by chance.
Roger
Excuse ME, Anonymous what proof do you have that it was 12:05 A.M.. It definitely was 12:02 A.M. Because I felt it and I remember the amazing Geonet website saying 7.8 12:02 A.M..
The predictions are 73% wrong because Novemberladt year a 7.8 quake hit NZ and the November 2016 NZ predictions from you guys we're only 6.4 for 15th.
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