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Sunday, October 08, 2023

Open invitation to test my epicenter location hypothesis for major quakes

 

Here is an invitation to all seismolist in general and U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) in perticular.
One and all are invited to test my Earthquake epicenter location hypothesis.
The hypothesis says...

Any major (6+) earthquake can occur at a location where

1) The Sun and/or Moon are at Zenith ( overhead) or At Nadir (180 degrees apart, on other side of globe) ,with a margin of + or - 1 hr
or
2) The Sun and/or Moon are rising or setting ( with a margin of + or - 30 minutes or twilight zone margin)

For all those who prefer to go by statistics  or odds ...here are the details
1) + or - one hrs ie 2hrs for Zenith and 2 hrs for Nadir ie 4 hrs for Moon
Thus 8 hrs for both Sun and Moon
2) 30 minutes for rising and 30 minutes for setting ie 1 hr for and 2 hrs for bothbSun and Moon
Now we have 8+2=10 hrs out of 24 hrs
so ,odds are 10/24 hrs ie 42 %
Thus if out of 100 such major quakes (6+) If more than 60% follow the norms, it is above odds
check out.
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https://earthquake-prediction.blogspot.com

43 comments:

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

What about the 51 quakes with no lunar aspects?

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

amit

Have you made any progress on the 51 quakes not near a moon position?

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
It is true that most of the quakes are triggered by Moon aspects with Sun
However ,there are few major quakes, as high as 8+, which are not on Full Moon or New Moon.
Such quakes are triggered by closer Jupiter, Venus ,Mars and /or Saturn.
When Moon joins or opposes such closer planets ,a major quake can occur ( even though ,there is no full Moon or New Moon aspects)
Regards
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

amit

That may or may not be true but it is not an answer to my question.

Once again, have you examined the 51 quakes I sent you which are
not near a moon phase?

Have you found any other explanation for them?

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
That is true.
This is the reason why seismolist failed to recognize the causes behind wuake is tidal pull.
They only tried to link all major quakes to Full Moon and New Moon only., which is true for most of the cases but not all
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit

That's not good enough. The quakes I sent you are not near ANY moon phase.

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
We need to know that Moon phases are aspects of Just one celestial body ie Sun
When bigger planets are closer and in aspects with Moon , a major quantity occurr
Say for example yesterday's ie 10th October 2023 ,I have predicted looking at conjuction of closer Venus and Moon ,and we have two 6 + quakes.
Regards
Amit

AMIT said...

Roger
Watch ,yesterday's two 6+ quakes have no Moon phases involved.
Yet I have given date ,because ,closer Venus and Moon Joins and also opposes Saturn
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

you're still not answering my question about the 51 quakes.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

To prove your theory you must show that ALL 6+ quakes have an aspect involved.

Otherwise it's just chance.

And I still don't believe the planets have enough gravitational pull to do anything.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

Is there any large scale project that would be helpful to you?

Something needing computer help that you don't have?

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

You're not helping your cause by ignoring my request.

I can only conclude that you are just another fraud trying to promote a false concept.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

AMIT;

What about those 51 quakes?

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
Pl as I told earlier please forward the final list once again on my e mail
Let me have some time, after 15 hrs a day office work since last 10 days ,without any weekly off

Regards
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

for the period from 2005 to 2020 there were 2442 mag 6+ quakes.

During the same period there were 59 conjunctions involving some combination of Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and the Moon. (not necessarily all of them each time)

Only 56 of the combinations correlated with a mag 6 quake.

Now even if the planets combinations were somehow responsible for the quakes (which I doubt)
so what? It's too little to be useful.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

Forget the 51 quakes. This case is closed.

Planets do not cause quakes, they just sometimes correlate with them.

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
You are making same mistake again
Let us take only Moon.
Moon makes one round in one month.Therefore we have one full Moon and one New Moon every month
So 24 in a year
For 25 years ,only Moon and Sun have
24x15=360 aspects ,opposition or conjuction
Now consider all 5 remaining planets ie
Jupiter,Venus,Mars ,Saturn and Urenus (Merc,Nept and Pluto are not considered
So 360x5=1800 aspects considering only Moon and another planet or Sun
Count multiple aspects excluding Moon
You will get the figure
Amit

AMIT said...

Roger
These calculations are for 15 years .( not 25 years )
Amit

AMIT said...

Roger.Now Add Faster moving Venus.
Venus year is two third of Earth year .so in 15 years it makes more than 20 (22 rounds)
So 20x5(remaining planets +Sun) × 2 ( one opposition +one conjuction)=200
So we have crossed 2000 mark here only
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

You're counting wrong.

It's not the sum of all individual planets.

We want the combinations and there a lot less of them.

But even so, the quakes don't match up any more than chance allows.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

Can you show that for each of these conjunctions there is a mag 6 quake?

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
We have ,even,several 6+quakes ,on a given day ,all over globe
It depends on proximity .
Few have several in a day and very few, may not have
Amit

AMIT said...

Roger
When I say ,a opposition of Jupiter and Moon ,there are ,in fact ,three in line
Namely,Jupiter ,Earth and Moon
There is no single planet
Amit

AMIT said...

Roger
Let us take individual planet Venus.
Now when I say, Venus makes one conjuction and one opposition with all planets during its one orbital round.
ie Venus is in opposition as well as conjuction with all 5 planets during the year.
Say Venus opposition Jupiter means ,Venus ,Earth and Jupiter in one straight line.
There are minimum three in line with all combinations
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

I have a list of conjunctions from Wikipedia for the period 2005 to 2020.
From it I take the ones involving the major planets we are studying.

Do you know of a better source?

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

I repeat my analysis of 2023 quakes;

90 mag 6+ quakes
31 moon phases
39 quakes near a moon phase
51 quakes NOT near a moon phase

Your theory is disproven.

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
Moon phases takes in to account only aspects of Moon with Sun.
There are other potent planets like Jupiter ,Venus and Mars whose aspects with Moon should also be checked.
Everytime seismolist look for Moon phases only.
Pl go beyond that and look at aspects with other major planets
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

It's your theory so it's up to you to support it.

let's see a table of all 6+ quakes for the last 5 years together with the relevant aspects.

I don't have the planetary information (what is your source?)

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
Yes
I am doing it. However ,for last 5 years 7+ quakes,( 82 ). This is because I may not be able to find time ,after doing a full time Consultancy, for 800 odd 6+ quakes.
I am also planning to add a column ,showing whether it is as per epicenter hypothesis or not
Regards
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

Sounds good but the format I used is better. A line for each day of the year with data posted on the proper line shows the discrepancies better.

My health situation is better but still not correct. Urination is now normal urine but still too frequent and virtually uncontrollable.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

Excellent! I look forward to seeing it.

Better yet, can you send me a copy?

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

where do you get the planet position information?

can you send me a copy of the output chart?

I'll add the 6+ quake information and we'll nail this thing down.

If it proves out you'll become world famous!

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

I'm updating my list of 6+ quakes for the previous 5 years.
I intended to create a list of days for the 5 years until I woke up to how many days that is.

I don't think I have that much patience. 18254 days (not counting leap years)!

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger
No
Something wrong
365x5 yeast = 1825
From where did you get 18254?
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

amit;

Should be 1825. I don't know where that 4 came from.
Probably a leap year in there somewhere.
Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

I now have a file listing every day from 1918 to 1922 and every 6+ quake during that period.

Next will be to add moon phases.

Roger

AMIT said...

Roger.
If you consider only Moon phases it will not give results. This has been done by seismologist several times.
All other major planet aspects also to be taken in to account
Amit

Roger Hunter said...

Amit

Ok, where can I find the information on planet positions?

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

But wait; moon has always been one of the bodies involved so why isn't it enough?

Well, not enough, but always present at quake time.

Roger

Roger Hunter said...

Amit;

That brings up another point;

Why isn't the sun always involved since it's the largest gravitational force of all?

Roger

AMIT said...

No it is not
Moon has far more tidal pull then Sun
As the gravitational pull is inversely promotional to the square of the distance between two bodies

Amit

AMIT said...

Roger
Further the tidal pull /acceleration is change of gravitational force on a body ,a ocean ,at both ends.
Hence tidal pull is promotional to the inverse of quakes of distances between two bodies.
So Moon being closer ,it has more tidal pull on ocean than Sun.
You can search for formula of tidal pull on Wikipedia
Roger ,that is why when Moon is closest to Earth ,once every month ( 57 ER..Earth Radious),it is far more potent than when farthest (63 ER)
Closer planets are more powerful, as the difference will be promotional to qube of it.
Jupiter is closest to Earth this week...watch out for 7+ quakes

Amit

AMIT said...

Spell check...
Typing /posting while traveling in Mumbai Suburban local train ,fully packed...
..second para...read as..
Hence tidal pull is proportional to the inverse of qubes of distances between two bodies....